Today, Lisa welcomes her friend, pastor and author Sharon Hodde Miller to the JOE today. Sharon leads Bright City Church in Durham, NC with her husband, Ike, which they planted together in 2018. Sharon earned her M.Div. from Duke Divinity School, and her PhD from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, where she researched the topic of women and calling. Lisa and Sharon talk today about control, which is the topic of Sharon's latest book, The Cost of Control: Why We Crave it, The Anxiety It Gives Us and the Real Power God Promises. This is a must listen conversation today on JOE.

Today on our second episode in the series "Two Lies and Truth", Lisa is tackling the cultural lie that you can't have or hold a strong conviction as a believer in this world today. The truth she shares today is timely for Christians and will help you navigate this ins our current culture.